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Once saved, always saved?

Once saved, always saved

Once saved, always saved?

By JOHN CHOPORES

 

Soteriology (Salvation)

 

Conditional or unconditional Salvation?

 

Some of the reasons I believe in conditional Salvation is -

 

1. Jesus said "Salvation is of the Jews." The Jewish covenants were conditional upon obedience to the covenant laws. Cf. John 4:22  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews

2. "Salvation was conditional from the beginning. God told Cain: "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?" Cain did not obey this condition and was rejected." [IYC. Page 159.].

The Lord Jesus Himself said that "Salvation is of the Jews." We see that all of the Jewish covenants were  dependent upon obedience to the covenant laws. . Cf. John 4:22  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews

Salvation has been dependent upon obedience, from the beginning, Adam and Eve, lost it because of disodience to God. Cf. Gen.3: 3  But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Gen.3: 19  In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Gen.3: 24  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

 

3. In the Prophets, we see unified emphasis on the if-condition. "The breach of covenant threats were constantly held before the Jews by the prophets. The covenant "if" was repeated by Samuel, Azariah, Isaiah, Hezekiah, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Ezekial, Zechariah, and Malachi." [IYC. Page. 161.].

4. "Christ's if-conditions for salvation were severe." [IYC. Page. 162.]. Cf. John 8:51 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

 

5. "The if-emphasis Jesus gave to the New Covenant was continued by the apostles. Paul used the covenant "if" in his predestination teaching to the Romans. He said the Jews were "broken off" their covenant tree "because of unbelief," and that they would be grafted in again only "if they abide not still in unbelief." [IYC. Page 162.]. Cf. Romans 11:23  And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

 

6. "Paul taught that salvation was an if-covenant for both Jews and Gentiles. The Gentiles were grafted to Israel's covenant tree because of their faith; but Paul held the if-warning before them. They would remain in Israel's covenant tree of salvation "if thou continue in his goodness, otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Those who did not continue in covenant obedience, both Jews and Gentiles, would be cut off. Jesus taught the same about those who did not abide in the Vine (John 15:6)." [IYC. Pages 162-163.]. Cf. John 15: 6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

 

7. "God endowed man with the ability to choose his own way. Divine influences are exerted to persuade him to choose God's way, but he is free to decide." [IYC. Page 163.].

 

““Then I never can be saved; for I can perform no conditions; for I can do nothing.” No, nor I, nor any man under heaven, — without the grace of God. “But I can do all things through Christ strengthening me.” So can you; so can every believer. And he has strengthened, and will strengthen, you more and more, if you do not willfully resist till you quench his Spirit.” [JOHN WESLEY].

“From hence arise justification and sanctification through the blood of Christ and his Spirit, and from them the existence of all good works.” [ARMINIUS].

“1. But do I hear you say, "Once a son, always a son. He may be disobedient, yet he is a son"? This sounds nice, but is a false analogy and untrue to fact. Let us see! When he was first born, he had no choice as to time or place; he became a son without his knowledge or volition. Net so when he was born again. Then he voluntarily chose to enter the family of God; and since he did not lose the right of choice, he could, like Demas, leave as he entered (2 Tim. 4:10). He was inducted into the kingdom by an act of faith, of his own free will. Strange, then, that if he once had the power to decide he should suddenly forfeit it and become a spiritual idiot, incapable of decision. Hence he is now a mere machine, a nonentity, and consequently irresponsible regardless of what he does. "If he sins," say they, "he may lose fellowship, but not his standing with God; for he is still God's child though sinning every day in word, thought, and deed." What an insult to his intelligence and to a good God who gave him the highest of all gifts -- Free Moral Agency!

 

2. "I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (John 10:28). Here is a blessed passage, and multitudes have proven that no man can cause another to be lost. But, on the other hand, let Adam Clarke speak: "They who continue to hear Christ's voice, and to follow Him, shall never perish. Now it is evident that only those who have Christ living in and governing their souls, so that they possess the mind that was in Him, are His sheep; these shall never perish. Therefore to talk of a man's being one of the elect, one that shall never perish or be plucked out of the hand of God while he lives in sin, is as contrary to common sense as it is to the nature ... and testimonies of the Most High. Final perseverance implies final faithfulness -- 'He that endureth to the end shall be saved'; 'He that is faithful unto death shall have a crown of life.' And will any man attempt to say that he who does not endure to the end, and is unfaithful, shall ever enter into life?" How absurd!

 

3. "Abide in me, and I in you. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned" (John 15:4, 6). Mark! This branch was not tied on, but had living connection and for a while was fruitful. Then, for some reason Christ declared it "withered" and it ceased to bear; hence it was cut off and burned, rather than let the blight spread to other branches. If language means anything, this lesson teaches the sad possibility of final apostasy.

 

4. The author of Hebrews must have believed in falling away, for the epistle abounds with such terms as, "Let us fear"; "Take heed"; "Consider!" We read, "It is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance: seeing [while] they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame" (Heb. 6:4-6).

Peter fell, but Jesus caught him, as He does many today. Judas fell, not only on deck, but overboard, and plunged so far that his recovery became impossible (1 John 5:16). Dear reader, take warning!

 

"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die" (Ezek. 18:24). No juggling or wresting of the Scriptures here, by saying this is from the Old Testament; or by asserting that King Saul, Judas and others lost their lives, but not their souls.” [ETERNAL SECURITY TRUE AND FALSE (A Tract)  By Rev. E. E. Shelhamer ].

“XXIII. As the grace that produces any of these states may be lost through sin, or carelessness; hence the necessity that the true penitent should continue to watch and pray till he is justified that, when justified, he should continue to watch and pray, and deny himself, and take up his cross, till he is sanctified; and, when sanctified, he should continue the same course, believing, loving, and obeying, till he is glorified. As he will be in danger as long as he lives of falling from grace, so he should continue to watch and pray, believe, and maintain good works, as long as he breathes; for while thus employed, humbly trusting in the Lord Jesus, he cannot fall. 1 Corinthians 9:27; 2 Peter 2:18; Mark 14:38; 13:37; 2 Peter 2:10.” [CLAVIS BIBLICA by Adam Clarke].

 

“V. THE PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS

My sentiments respecting the perseverance of the saints are, that those persons who have been grafted into Christ by true faith, and have thus been made partakers of his life-giving Spirit, possess sufficient powers [or strength] to fight against Satan, sin, the world and their own flesh, and to gain the victory over these enemies — yet not without the assistance of the grace of the same Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ also by his Spirit assists them in all their temptations, and affords them the ready aid of his hand; and, provided they stand prepared for the battle, implore his help, and be not wanting to themselves, Christ preserves them from falling. So that it is not possible for them, by any of the cunning craftiness or power of Satan, to be either seduced or dragged out of the hands of Christ. But I think it is useful and will be quite necessary in our first convention, [or Synod] to institute a diligent inquiry from the Scriptures, whether it is not possible for some individuals through negligence to desert the commencement of their existence in Christ, to cleave again to the present evil world, to decline from the sound doctrine which was once delivered to them, to lose a good conscience, and to cause Divine grace to be ineffectual.” [A Declaration of the Sentiments of Arminius, The Perseverance of the Saints].

 

How let's take a look at some New Testament passages, which help make things clear!

 

The Gospels

 

Matthew 12:31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

" shall not be forgiven", who shall not be forgiven? Any man who blasphemes again the Holy Spirit. 

Matthew 12:32  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

It does not say, that a born-again Christian cannot speak again the Holy Spirit.

 

Matt. 18: 21 ¶ Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

"Verse 21. Till seven times?— Though seven was a number of perfection among the Hebrews, and often meant much more than the units in it imply, yet it is evident that Peter uses it here in its plain literal sense, as our Lord’s words sufficiently testify. It was a maxim among the Jews never to forgive more than thrice: Peter enlarges this charity more than one half; and our Lord makes even his enlargement septuple, see Matthew 18:22. Revenge is natural to man, i.e. man is naturally a vindictive being, and, in consequence, nothing is more difficult to him than forgiveness of injuries." [ADAM CLARKE].

"Verse 22. Seventy times seven. There is something very remarkable in these words, especially if collated with Genesis 4:24, where the very same words are used-“If any man kill LAMECH, he shall be avenged seventy times seven.” The just God punishes sin in an exemplary manner.

Sinful man, who is exposed to the stroke of Divine justice, should be abundant in forgiveness, especially as the merciful only shall find mercy. The sum seventy times seven makes four hundred and ninety. Now an offense, properly such, is that which is given wantonly, maliciously, and without ANY PROVOCATION. It is my opinion, that, let a man search ever so accurately, he will not find that he has received, during the whole course of his life, four hundred and ninety such offenses. If the man who receives the offense has given any cause for it, in that case, the half of the offense, at least, towards his brother, ceases." [ADAM CLARKE].

22  Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

How many times should we forgive? How many times do we want to be forgiven?

But then should we really count them?

23  Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

24  And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

25  But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

26  The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

27  Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

28  But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

29  And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

30  And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

31  So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

"Verse 30. And he would not, etc. To the unmerciful, God will show no mercy; this is an eternal purpose of the Lord, which never can be changed.

God teaches us what to do to a fellow-sinner, by what HE does to us. Our fellow-servant’s debt to us, and ours to God, are as one hundred denarii to ten thousand talents! When we humble ourselves before him, God freely forgives us all this mighty sum! And shall we exact from our brother recompense for the most trifling faults? Reader, if thou art of this unmerciful, unforgiving cast, read out the chapter." [ADAM CLARKE].

32  Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

33  Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

"Verse 33. Shouldest not thou also have had compassionouk edei kai se, Did it not become thee also? What a cutting reproach! It became ME to show mercy, when thou didst earnestly entreat me, because I am MERCIFUL, It became thee also to have shown mercy, because thou wert so deep in debt thyself, and hadst obtained mercy." [ADAM CLARKE].

34  And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

"34. His Lord delivered him to the tormentors — Imprisonment is a much severer punishment in the eastern countries than in ours. State criminals,

especially when condemned to it, are not only confined to a very mean and scanty allowance, but are frequently loaded with clogs or heavy yokes, so that they can neither lie nor sit at ease: and by frequent scourgings and sometimes rackings are brought to an untimely end. Till he should pay all that was due to him — That is, without all hope of release, for this he could never do.
How observable is this whole account; as well as the great inference our Lord draws from it:

1. The debtor was freely and fully forgiven;

2. He wilfully and grievously offended;

3. His pardon was retracted, the whole debt required, and the offender delivered to the tormentors for ever.

And shall we still say, but when we are once freely and fully forgiven, our pardon can never be retracted? Verily, verily, I say unto you, So likewise

will my heavenly Father do to you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses." [JOHN WESLEY].

"Verse 35. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto youThe goodness and indulgence of God towards us is the pattern we should

follow in our dealings with others. If we take man for our exemplar we shall err, because our copy is a bad one; and our lives are not likely to be

better than the copy we imitate. Follow Christ; be merciful as your Father who is in heaven is merciful. You cannot complain of the fairness of your

copy." [ADAM CLARKE].

" {The tormentors} (toiv basanistaiv). Not to prison simply,  but to terrible punishment. The papyri give various instances of the verb basanizw,  to torture, used of slaves and others. "Livy (ii. 23) pictures an old centurion complaining that he was taken by his creditor,  not into servitude,  but to a workhouse and torture,  and showing his back scarred with fresh wounds" (Vincent). {Till he should pay all} (ewv ou apodw pan). Just as in verse #30,  his very words. But this is not purgatorial,  but punitive,  for he could never pay back that vast debt." [RWP].

35  So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

We see here that to be forgiven, we must forgive! If we are not forgiven, how will we get into Heaven?

Also, how can we pay for all our sins? Only the grace of God can! But if we turn our back on that grace, how can we remain saved? Cf.Heb.6: 4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Cf. Verse 6 in the Weymouth's New Testament.  Heb. 6:6  it is impossible, I say, to keep bringing them back to a new repentance, for, to their own undoing, they are repeatedly crucifying the Son of God afresh and exposing Him to open shame.

This is Jesus Himself, saying that if we do not forgive, the same can happen to us!

 

Matt. 24: 4 ¶ And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

You have to have love, in the first place, for it to go cold.

13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Endure unto when? Until the end is the answer.

23  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and

wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25  Behold, I have told you before.

26  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

 

 

Matt. 25: 1 ¶ Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

Please note that He is talking about the kingdom of heaven! Is not Heaven itself, part of that kingsom?

2  And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

3  They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

4  But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

5  While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

6  And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

7  Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

8  And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

Could it be that they did not keep full of the Holy Spirit? Cf. Psalms 45:7  you love righteousness and hate wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows; Heb.1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

9  But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

10  And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Does not the Bible, say we should be ready for the Lord? Cf. Matthew 24:44  Therefore you also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

11  Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

Cf. Matthew 7:21 ¶ "Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

12  But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

"{I know you not} (ouk oida umav). Hence there was no reason for special or unusual favours to be granted them. They must abide the consequences of their own negligence." [RWP].

"I know you not. The verb "know" is here used,  according to the Jewish idiom,  for favorable knowledge. … It signified that these virgins,  on account of their remissness,  were no longer counted even as acquaintances,  much less as part of the household." [TFG].

"I know you not. This means,  I do not recognize you as persons entitled to enter. The claims that they might have had once had been forfeited." [PNT].

"I know you not" is not something you say to someone, who cannot lose her welcome!

13  Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Cf. Luke 18:8  I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

 

 

Luke 8: 11  Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

12  Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

These are not saved, to start with.

" {Which for a while believe} (oi prov kairon pisteuousin). Ostensibly they are sincere and have made a real start in the life of faith. {They fall away} (afistantai). Present middle indicative. They stand off,  lose interest," [RWP].

 

13  They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

They " receive the word with joy", is that not what a person does when he/she becomes born-again? There is joy in Heaven when a person becomes born-again! Cf. Luke 15:10  Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

" {They are choked} (sunpnigontai). Present passive indicative of this powerfully vivid compound verb sunpnigw used in #Mr 4:19; Mt 13:22,  only there these worldly weeds choke the word while here the victims themselves are choked. Both are true. Diphtheria will choke and strangle the victim. Who has not seen the promise of fair flower and fruit choked into yellow withered stalk without fruit" [RWP].

It says here that "for a while believe", so they are believers. Not they "think that they believe", but "for a while believe"! Nor does it say, "they seem to believe". But only "for a while believe".

14  And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

What was choked? Was it not the life in them?

"{Bring no fruit to perfection} (ou telesforousin). Compound verb common in the late writers (telov,  forew). To bring to completion. Used of fruits,  animals,  pregnant women. Only here in the N.T." [RWP].

The fruit  that was not to "perfection" was probably the "fruit of the Spirit". Cf. Galatians 5:22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ephesians 5:9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

What other kind of fruit would God want?

15  But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

"Verse 15. With patience. Rather, with perseverance. The Greek word upomonh, which our translators render patience, properly signifies here, and in Romans 2:7, perseverance. The good ground, because it is good, strong and vigorous, continues to bear: bad or poor ground cannot produce a good crop, and besides it is very soon exhausted. The persons called the

good ground in the text are filled with the power and influence of God, and therefore continue to bring forth fruit; i.e. they persevere in righteousness.

From this we may learn that the perseverance of the saints, as it is termed, necessarily implies that they continue to bring forth fruit to the glory of God. Those who are not fruitful are not in a state of perseverance." [ADAM CLARKE].

"It bears fruit (karpoforousin,  an old expressive verb, karpov and forew). That is the proof of spiritual life. {In patience} (en upomonh). There is no other way for real fruit to come. Mushrooms spring up overnight,  but they are usually poisonous. The best fruits require time,  cultivation,  patience." [RWP].

 

Luke 12: 42  And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

43  Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

44  Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

45  But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

46  The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

With the "unbelievers". Cf. Mark 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.  Rev. 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

  Rev. 21: 27  And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Are not "unbelievers" and "fearful", the same?

 

John 8: 51 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Not just receive, but also "keep".

 

John 15: 1 ¶ I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Since the spiritual Father of Christ is God the Father, the husbandman must be God the Father.

2  Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Every branch, not just some.

3  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

If they are clean, then they must be born-again! Cf. Isaiah 1:16 ¶ Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; Ezekiel 36:25 ¶ Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

" Already ye are clean because of the word which I have spoken unto you. It is God in Christ who cleanseth the soul,  but this cleansing is effected through hearing,  believing and obeying the Word. The Word tells us what to do that we may be cleansed and saved (#Eph 5:26 Jas 1:18)." [TFG].

" Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. The spoken word is the instrument appointed by God for the cleansing of the soul. The word tells us what to do in order that we may be cleansed from sin." [PNT].

Please note the RSV. " 3  You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you."

 4  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

The word "except" is really a very big word here.

5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

"If" not, then he is "cast forth", " withered" and "burned".

 

The writings of Paul

 

Rom. 11: 20  Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

We see here that lack of standing and living in the Faith, can cause someone to be "broken off".

21  For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

God will not…what?

22  Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

It says, goodness toward us…if we "continue".

 

2 Cor.1: 24  Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.

Why should we stand by something (faith), if we do not need it. If we need faith to stand, then without it we fall!

 

Col. 1:21  And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22  In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23  If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

If we " continue in the faith" when we will be " unblameable" in His sight.

 

Col. 2: 18  Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind,

19  and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. [RSV].

Paul is here writing to born-again Christians. Yet, they can lose their " reward". See KJV.

The Greek word for "disqualify" is "Katabrabeuo" it means to " to defraud or beguile of the prize of victory and metaph. to deprive of salvation".

" Let no man beguile you. Rob you of your reward by his guile. He will do so if you become unworthy of it by

 

a voluntary humility. By a humility that is willed," [PNT].

" 18. beguile--Translate,  "Defraud you of your prize, "literally,  "to adjudge a prize out of hostility away from him who deserves it" [TRENCH]. "To be umpire in a contest to the detriment of one." This defrauding of their prize the Colossians would suffer,  by letting any self-constituted arbitrator or judge (that is,  false teacher) draw them away from Christ, "the righteous Judge" and Awarder of the prize (#2Ti 4:8 Jas 1:12 1Pe 5:4),  to angel-worship.

 

in a voluntary humility--So "will-worship" (#Col 2:23). Literally, "Delighting ([WAHL]) in humility"; loving (so the Greek is translated,  #Mr 12:38,  "love to go in long clothing") to indulge himself in a humility of his own imposing: a volunteer in humility [DALLAEUS].

 

2 Thessalonians 2:3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

How can a person fall away, from something, unless he/she is a part of it?

"{Except the falling away come first} (ean mh elyh h apostasia prwton).  Negative condition of the third class,  undetermined with prospect of determination and the aorist subjunctive.  Apostasia is the late form of apostasiv and is our word apostasy. Plutarch uses it of political revolt and it occurs in I Macc. 2:15 about Antiochus Epiphanes who was enforcing the apostasy from Judaism to Hellenism. In #Jos 22:22 it occurs for rebellion against the Lord. It seems clear that the word here means a religious revolt and the use of the definite article (h) seems to mean that Paul had spoken to the Thessalonians about it. The only other New Testament use of the word is in #Ac 21:21 where it means apostasy from Moses." [RWP].

 

1 Tim.4: 1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

A person cannot "depart" from something he/she does not have! You have to be in the faith, to depart from it.

The Greek word for "faith" is "pistis" it means "conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it". That sounds like "born-again" faith to me!

The book of Hebrews

Heb. 6: 4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Once " enlightened",  " have tasted of the heavenly gift" and " made partakers of the Holy Ghost" they sure seem saved to me!

5  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Who has tasted the Word, but born-again believers? Cf. Psalms 34:8  O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Psalms 119:103 ¶ How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!

Was not David, a believer?

How about the church in Thessalonica? Cf. 1 Thessalonians 1:6 ¶ And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost:

6  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

 The ones once " enlightened", can fall away!

7  For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

8  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Burning is not Heaven.

But burning is the end for those who "fall away".

 

 Hebrews 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It says "we", born-again Christians.

It says here "wilfully" this is not making a mistake. This is turning one's will again God!

" For if we sin wilfully. Deliberately trample under foot Christ's will; apostasize from the faith in life.

Remaineth no more sacrifice. We have,  in that case,  rejected Christ, the only sacrifice for sin." [PNT].

" we sin--Greek present participle: if we be found sinning,  that is,  not isolated acts,  but a state of sin [ALFORD]. A violation not only of the law, but of the whole economy of the New Testament (#Heb 10:28,29).

 

wilfully--presumptuously,  Greek "willingly." After receiving "full knowledge (so the Greek, compare #1Ti 2:4) of the truth, " by having been "enlightened, "and by having "tasted" a certain measure even of grace of "the Holy Ghost" (the Spirit of truth,  #Joh 14:17; and "the Spirit of grace, "#Heb 10:29): to fall away (as "sin" here means,  #Heb 3:12,17; compare #Heb 6:6) and apostatize (#Heb 3:12) to Judaism or infidelity,  is not a sin of ignorance,  or error ("out of the way, "the result) of infirmity,  but a deliberate sinning against the Spirit (#Heb 10:29 Heb 5:2): such sinning,  where a consciousness of Gospel obligations not only was,  but is present: a sinning presumptuously and preseveringly against Christ's redemption for us,  and the Spirit of grace in us. "He only who stands high can fall low. A lively reference in the soul to what is good is necessary in order to be thoroughly wicked; hence,  man can be more reprobate than the beasts,  and the apostate angels than apostate man" [THOLUCK].

 

remaineth no more sacrifice--For there is but ONE Sacrifice that can atone for sin; they,  after having fully known that sacrifice, deliberately reject it." [JFB].

" it intends a total apostasy from the truth, against light and evidence,  joined with obstinacy." [JOHN GILL].

" {If we sin wilfully} (ekousiwv amartanontwn hmwn). Genitive absolute with the present active participle of amartanw, circumstantial participle here in a conditional sense. {After that we have received} (meta to labein). "After the receiving" (accusative case of the articular infinitive second aorist active of lambanw after meta). {Knowledge} (epignwsin). "Full knowledge, "as in #6:4. {There remaineth no more} (ouketi apoleipetai). "No longer is there left behind" (present passive indicative as in #4:9),  for one has renounced the one and only sacrifice for sin that does or can remove sin (#10:1-18)." [RWP].

 

Hebrews 10:27  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Hebrews 10:28  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Hebrews 10:29  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

" {An unholy thing} (koinon). Common in the sense of uncleanness as Peter used it in #Ac 10:14. Think of one who thus despises "the blood of Christ wherewith he was sanctified."

… {Hath done despite} (enubrisav). First aorist active participle of enubrizw,  old verb to treat with contumely,  to give insult to,  here only in the N.T. It is a powerful word for insulting the Holy Spirit after receiving his blessings (#6:4)." [RWP].

" Of how much sorer punishment. Where much is given much is required. How great the sin of the apostate! " [PNT].

" an unholy thing--literally,  "common, "as opposed to "sanctified." No better than the blood of a common man,  thus involving the consequence that Christ,  in claiming to be God,  was guilty of blasphemy. and so deserved to die!" [JFB].

Cf. Matthew 12:31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

 

 

 Having said this let me say that it is not an easy thing, to fall from the Faith! For the Holy Spirit is always working in us, to bring us closer to God. And forgiveness for sins, is just a humble and legitimate prayer away!

Falling from the Faith, is for those who decide to hate Christ and His work for us. Those who say  no, time after time to the Holy Spirit!

If a person really falls from the Faith. That person will not care about God and His love, anymore.

 

Jude

Jude 6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

We see that even before mankind came into being, that there were other beings that fell!

If one group can fall, may not another?

" And the angels which kept not their first estate. See PNT "2Pe 2:4". These angels,  then,  had fallen. Created holy,  they had sinned and become wicked angels,  or evil spirits.

 

And left their own habitation. Their own proper home. Some see a reference to #Ge 6:2.

 

He hath reserved. God hath imprisoned them and kept them for judgment." [PNT].

" Left their own habitation; became discontented with their condition,  and refused to do the will of God, in the place assigned to them #2Pe 2:4." [FAMILY].

 

 

The book of Revelation

Revelation 3:5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Your name has to be in the "book", before it can be "blot out"!

" Book of life. Compare #13:8 17:8 20:12,15 21:27 Php 4:3. The book of life means the roll of those who have become heirs of immortality." [PNT].

" blot out...name out of...book of life--of the heavenly city. A register was kept in ancient cities of their citizens: the names of the dead were of course erased. So those who have a name that they live and are dead (#Re 3:1),  are blotted out of God's roll of the heavenly citizens and heirs of eternal life;" [JFB].

" {I will in no wise blot out} (ou mh exaleiqw). Strong double negative ou mh and the first aorist active (or future) of exaleifw,  old word,  to wipe out (#Ac 3:19). {Of the book of life} (ek thv biblou thv zwhv). Ablative case with ek. This divine register first occurs in #Ex 32:32 and often in the O.T. See #Lu 10:20; Php 4:3; Re 13:8; 20:15; 21:27. The book is in Christ's hands (#13:8; 21:27). {His name} (to onoma autou). The name of the one who overcomes (o nikwn). Clear reminiscence of the words of Christ about confessing to the Father those who confess him here (#Mt 10:32; Mr 8:38; Lu 9:26; 12:8). Whether John knew the Synoptic Gospels (and why not?) he certainly knew such sayings of Jesus." [RWP].

 

Rev. 3: 14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

You will please notice that He is writing to a church!

15  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

"I know thy" what? Works, that's what.

16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

He loves them, as God does His children. Cf. Hebrews 12:6  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
So He wants them to repent!

20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

To him that overcometh.

22  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

This word is to the churches, and churches are to be made up, of the saved. Cf. Acts 2:47  Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

 

Rev.3: 12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

He that " overcometh" is the one that shall have a new name.

Cf. Isaiah 62:2  And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. 1 John 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

" go no more out--The Greek is stronger,  never more at all. As the elect angels are beyond the possibility of falling,  being now under (as the Schoolmen say) "the blessed necessity of goodness, "so shall the saints be. The door shall be once for all shut,  as well to shut safely in for ever the elect,  as to shut out the lost (#Mt 25:10 Joh 8:35; compare #Isa 22:23,  the type,  Eliakim). They shall be priests for ever unto God (#Re 1:6). "Who would not yearn for that city out of which no friend departs,  and into which no enemy enters?" [AUGUSTINE in TRENCH]." [JFB].

We cannot fall away after we are in Heaven. This is for the ones who overcome!

 

 

Rev. 17: 14 ¶ These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

They are "called, and chosen, and faithful". If you are both "called, and chosen", then you are born-again! But this verse seems to be saying that you need to be "faithful" too!

 

Revelation 20:12  And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

According to what? Their works! Cf. James 2:18  Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

 

Revelation 20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

We must have faith. Cf. Mark 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

 

Revelation 21:27  And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

So then, a person cannot enter if he "worketh abomination", but only the ones who are written in the "book of life". It would seem that, the person that "worketh abomination" is not in the book of life! You cannot enter and not enter, at the same time!

 

Revelation 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

You cannot take away something that a person does not have. So, the man talked about here is born-again.

If God takes away something, it is gone!

 

A really good book on the subject is "LIFE IN THE SON" by. ROBERT SHANK. There are many people who will try to talk you out of getting the book. They cannot answer the book!